Zdar,
zo zvedavosti som si kupil par vojenskych instatnych jedal, (americke MRE a nemecke NRG-N a NRG-5) Ak tiez chcete vyskusat, tak v utorok na meetupe sa planujem rozdelit.
n.
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm zastavi na pokec Marketa z HotKarot, ktera hleda nekoho se zkusenostmi nebo alespon zajmem o tyhle alternativ superfood. Mozna muzete zkusit nabidnout dalsi alternativu :)
ruza
On 12/14/2014 11:19 PM, niekt0 wrote:
zo zvedavosti som si kupil par vojenskych instatnych jedal, (americke MRE a nemecke NRG-N a NRG-5) Ak tiez chcete vyskusat, tak v utorok na meetupe sa planujem rozdelit.
n.
On 15/12/14 16:05, Pavel Ruzicka wrote:
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm
Mam Joylent v jeho styroch roznych prichutiach (vanilka, jahoda, banan, cokolada). Pokusim sa zastavit okolo osmej ak sa podari.
Ja uz za zivot sned hodne MRE, a se “superjidlem” to nema moc spolecneho. Ucel tech dvou veci je dost zasadne jiny. MRE neni kompletni vyziva - obcas je to dobre (nektere menu), obcas se to neda moc jist, vyhodou je, ze to vydrzi relativne dlouho (ale taky ne tak dlouho, jak si vsichni mysli), a rozhodne se vyplati mit v kufru auta nejakej kousek pro pripad cehokoliv, nebo si to vzit na celodenni cundr. Jestli to budete ochutnavat, tak si pamatujte ktery cislo menu jste meli a jestli vam chutnalo/nechutnalo, idealne pokud tam bude na ochutnavku komplet vsechno :-)
Me dnes dorazi Mana, ale srovnavat to opravdu nechci…
Z.
On 16 Dec 2014, at 02:14, Pavol Rusnak stick@gk2.sk wrote:
On 15/12/14 16:05, Pavel Ruzicka wrote:
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm
Mam Joylent v jeho styroch roznych prichutiach (vanilka, jahoda, banan, cokolada). Pokusim sa zastavit okolo osmej ak sa podari.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom,
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super - ja jsem se vcera v Brne potkala s kluky ze Synectar a s jednim Joylentarem z Base48...prinesu dnes Synectar powder, muzeme to porovnat.) / marketa
Dne 16. prosince 2014 2:14 Pavol Rusnak stick@gk2.sk napsal(a):
On 15/12/14 16:05, Pavel Ruzicka wrote:
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm
Mam Joylent v jeho styroch roznych prichutiach (vanilka, jahoda, banan, cokolada). Pokusim sa zastavit okolo osmej ak sa podari.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom,
Pavol Rusnak stick@gk2.sk
When I first read this here http://www.joylent.eu/ I thought it was a joke. Seriously??? :( "Joylent is a powder that you add to water to make a meal that has all the nutrients you need."
So we should take the fun, thriving, and survival experience out of foraging and eating? Just something to consider that was already covered fictitiously... Soylent Green (1973) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=soylent+green&search=Search
Monsanto loves the idea of "superfood", and they love vegan too. FYI, the Wikipedia page has been deleted, and it wasn't my doing--claims of blatant advertising. Is anybody sure they want to support this shit? Things like this can only prosper from "facebook creations". What a dumb idea, and an incredibly stupid philosophy.
Try "slow food" for a change, and make time for it! Life is worth it!
To put the proverbial crown on the bumbling king, the quotes toward the end of the page (http://www.joylent.eu/) are clearly from complete and utter retards...
camille "Food on festivals is often expensive and unhealthy. But to party hard you need to take in sufficient nutrients. With a couple packs of Joylent in my bag I know I can go on all weekend!
manon Food is the last thing on my mind when I’m hungover. But to let your body recover from a heavy night out, you have to get your nutrient levels up. With some Joylent I can hit the club the very same evening, it’s the ultimate hangover remedy!
sjors I prefer a couple more minutes of snooze time over my breakfast. But it’s nice to start a day with a good meal. With Joylent I down an excellent healthy breakfast each morning in no-time.
On 16 Dec 14, at 02:14, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 15/12/14 16:05, Pavel Ruzicka wrote:
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm
Mam Joylent v jeho styroch roznych prichutiach (vanilka, jahoda, banan, cokolada). Pokusim sa zastavit okolo osmej ak sa podari.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom,
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On 16/12/14 17:49, Mario Lombardo wrote:
I thought it was a joke. Seriously??? :(
are clearly from complete and utter retards...
What a way to start a discussion. I really thought you are much more open minded than that.
Just because I have an strong opinion on this subject doesn't mean I haven't already been "open minded".
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Pavol Rusnak stick@gk2.sk wrote:
On 16/12/14 17:49, Mario Lombardo wrote:
I thought it was a joke. Seriously??? :(
are clearly from complete and utter retards...
What a way to start a discussion. I really thought you are much more open minded than that.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom,
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Actually, is there any serious research behind this Joylent stuff? I mean other than one night of googling recommended daily intakes. Their website leaves strong 'hey, let's mix some dietary supplements and sell it as an food!' impression.
I'm not a nutrition expert, but it contains maltodextrin, which has pretty high glycemic index. Three large spikes of blood sugar level per day is something that most people want to avoid. Anyone who does an endurance sport (e.g. 50+ km trail running) will confirm that large blood sugar level variations are bad...
If you don't like to eat, you can even take one step further: parenteral nutrition!
nephirus
On 12/16/2014 07:05 PM, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 16/12/14 17:49, Mario Lombardo wrote:
I thought it was a joke. Seriously??? :(
are clearly from complete and utter retards...
What a way to start a discussion. I really thought you are much more open minded than that.
I bought and consumed Nutridrinks for quite some time - simply because I was too busy to eat, or too lazy to go out (of office) or (usually) both. An hour saved everyday is just huge.
Many people don’t eat breakfast because of time constraints. Many people don’t eat anything between lunch and dinner. Eating and then working is sometimes worse than not eating at all.
I love good food (hard to find any, though), but there’s no reason to have good food everyday, or twice a day - I go out on weekends and eat steaks and stuff at restaurants if occassion arises, and I enjoy it. That doesn’t mean I can’t just “replenish nutrients” during the day, and if it takes no time and doesn’t make me sleepy - great.
Let the hippies gather fresh herbs every day, some of us are too busy and have precious little time.
And there will come a time, when having a steak will be a luxury, because there simply won’t be enough (sustainable) food for everyone. You offer no solutions.
Z.
On 16 Dec 2014, at 17:49, Mario Lombardo mario@alienscience.com wrote:
When I first read this here http://www.joylent.eu/ I thought it was a joke. Seriously??? :( "Joylent is a powder that you add to water to make a meal that has all the nutrients you need."
So we should take the fun, thriving, and survival experience out of foraging and eating? Just something to consider that was already covered fictitiously... Soylent Green (1973) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=soylent+green&search=Search
Monsanto loves the idea of "superfood", and they love vegan too. FYI, the Wikipedia page has been deleted, and it wasn't my doing--claims of blatant advertising. Is anybody sure they want to support this shit? Things like this can only prosper from "facebook creations". What a dumb idea, and an incredibly stupid philosophy.
Try "slow food" for a change, and make time for it! Life is worth it!
To put the proverbial crown on the bumbling king, the quotes toward the end of the page (http://www.joylent.eu/) are clearly from complete and utter retards...
camille "Food on festivals is often expensive and unhealthy. But to party hard you need to take in sufficient nutrients. With a couple packs of Joylent in my bag I know I can go on all weekend!
manon Food is the last thing on my mind when I’m hungover. But to let your body recover from a heavy night out, you have to get your nutrient levels up. With some Joylent I can hit the club the very same evening, it’s the ultimate hangover remedy!
sjors I prefer a couple more minutes of snooze time over my breakfast. But it’s nice to start a day with a good meal. With Joylent I down an excellent healthy breakfast each morning in no-time.
On 16 Dec 14, at 02:14, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 15/12/14 16:05, Pavel Ruzicka wrote:
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm
Mam Joylent v jeho styroch roznych prichutiach (vanilka, jahoda, banan, cokolada). Pokusim sa zastavit okolo osmej ak sa podari.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom,
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I certainly do offer a solution... hack your life! What is it when one doesn't have time to properly feed oneself in a 1st-world country? As soon as it happens, one must question what is going on. It is NOT the norm as the site proposes. And if you think I'm a hippie, I'm not. I just know that we have way too many worthless green lawns when we should have gardens. The city tends to fruitless flower beds and bushes when they can bear herbs, fruits and vegetables as well--same with home owners. There needs to be a paradigm shift in thinking. Yes, we are doing things wrong, and this isn't the solution. It is rather supporting the wrong way we are heading--to zero! We continue to state that the world is over-populated, so government takes it in the ass and turns to Monsanto. It's the same elitist FUD: Problem, Reaction, Solution
I'm stating it now before it attempts to snowball in the minds of hackers. The film Solyent Green debuted in 1974 as a food-"big brother" film. Only the writers were a bit off. It won't be meat-based (people). It'll be Monsanto running to the solution from all the panic that was truly seeded in far in advance.
These pathetic drinks are nothing new. What might be new is their attempt at gaining mass, maybe worldwide, appeal. I say die.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Jan Schermer jan@schermer.cz wrote:
I bought and consumed Nutridrinks for quite some time - simply because I was too busy to eat, or too lazy to go out (of office) or (usually) both. An hour saved everyday is just huge.
Many people don't eat breakfast because of time constraints. Many people don't eat anything between lunch and dinner. Eating and then working is sometimes worse than not eating at all.
I love good food (hard to find any, though), but there's no reason to have good food everyday, or twice a day - I go out on weekends and eat steaks and stuff at restaurants if occassion arises, and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean I can't just "replenish nutrients" during the day, and if it takes no time and doesn't make me sleepy - great.
Let the hippies gather fresh herbs every day, some of us are too busy and have precious little time.
And there will come a time, when having a steak will be a luxury, because there simply won't be enough (sustainable) food for everyone. You offer no solutions.
Z.
On 16 Dec 2014, at 17:49, Mario Lombardo mario@alienscience.com wrote:
When I first read this here http://www.joylent.eu/ I thought it was a
joke. Seriously??? :(
"Joylent is a powder that you add to water to make a meal that has all the nutrients you need."
So we should take the fun, thriving, and survival experience out of
foraging and eating? Just something to consider that was already covered fictitiously...
Soylent Green (1973) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/ https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=soylent+green&search=Search
Monsanto loves the idea of "superfood", and they love vegan too. FYI, the Wikipedia page has been deleted, and it wasn't my doing--claims
of blatant advertising.
Is anybody sure they want to support this shit? Things like this can
only prosper from "facebook creations". What a dumb idea, and an incredibly stupid philosophy.
Try "slow food" for a change, and make time for it! Life is worth it!
To put the proverbial crown on the bumbling king, the quotes toward the
end of the page (http://www.joylent.eu/) are clearly from complete and utter retards...
camille "Food on festivals is often expensive and unhealthy. But to party hard
you need to take in sufficient nutrients. With a couple packs of Joylent in my bag I know I can go on all weekend!
manon Food is the last thing on my mind when I'm hungover. But to let your
body recover from a heavy night out, you have to get your nutrient levels up. With some Joylent I can hit the club the very same evening, it's the ultimate hangover remedy!
sjors I prefer a couple more minutes of snooze time over my breakfast. But
it's nice to start a day with a good meal. With Joylent I down an excellent healthy breakfast each morning in no-time.
On 16 Dec 14, at 02:14, Pavol Rusnak wrote:
On 15/12/14 16:05, Pavel Ruzicka wrote:
btw, pokud nekdo jedete v solylent/joylent apod .. toto utery se v brm
Mam Joylent v jeho styroch roznych prichutiach (vanilka, jahoda, banan, cokolada). Pokusim sa zastavit okolo osmej ak sa podari.
-- Best Regards / S pozdravom,
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 07:46:53PM +0100, Mario Lombardo wrote:
I certainly do offer a solution... hack your life! What is it when one
I would like to hack life so that one would never have to eat or sleep. I know these things are necessary, so I get it that people want to make them pleasant. But if they were not necessary, would many people start doing them?
Also I fund a little funny, that eating is social activity, but going to the toilet not so much.
Stevko
Please do. Dne 17.12.2014 16:32 "BIITER" mybiiter@gmail.com napsal(a):
Also I fund a little funny, that eating is social activity, but going
to the toilet not so much.
I can send you some links.
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Pošli ich Š. Šafárovi, keď ich chce. Ja ich nepotrebujem.
Prikladám popis z „Na západní frontě klid“:
Na pravém kraji louky je velká hromadná latrína, stabilní bouda se střechou. Ale to je pro rekruty, kteří se ještě nenaučili najít v každé věci nejaký požitek. Hledáme něco lepšího. Všude totiž stojí ještě roztroušeny jednotlivé skřínky k témuž účelu. Jsou čtyřrohé, dokola uzavřené, se skvělým, pohodlným sedátkem. Na postranních stěnách jsou držáky, takže je lze přenášet.
Srážíme tři do kruhu a pohodlně se usadíme. Dřív než za dvě hodiny se odtud nehneme.
[ … ]
Nevznikl nadarmo pro pověsti všeho druhu název ,,Pověsti z latríny"; tato místa na vojně jsou salony, kde se rodí klepy, a nahrazují uzavřený stůl v hospodě.
Stevko
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 04:33:03PM +0100, Štefan Šafár wrote:
Please do. Dne 17.12.2014 16:32 "BIITER" mybiiter@gmail.com napsal(a):
Also I fund a little funny, that eating is social activity, but going
to the toilet not so much.
I can send you some links.
Brmlab mailing list Brmlab@brmlab.cz https://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab
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Solution for what ?
I can't do this.. I have no time.. I must .... just fucking excuses.
You can choose, being healthy or being lazy. All this powder foods and nutridrings are for people who can't eat or have some serious problems. It helps you survive but not healthy for every day use.
If you are sleepy after lunch, don't eat garbage.
W.
On 16.12.2014 19:08, Jan Schermer wrote:
I bought and consumed Nutridrinks for quite some time - simply because I was too busy to eat, or too lazy to go out (of office) or (usually) both. An hour saved everyday is just huge.
Many people don’t eat breakfast because of time constraints. Many people don’t eat anything between lunch and dinner.u Eating and then working is sometimes worse than not eating at all.
I love good food (hard to find any, though), but there’s no reason to have good food everyday, or twice a day - I go out on weekends and eat steaks and stuff at restaurants if occassion arises, and I enjoy it. That doesn’t mean I can’t just “replenish nutrients” during the day, and if it takes no time and doesn’t make me sleepy - great.
Let the hippies gather fresh herbs every day, some of us are too busy and have precious little time.
And there will come a time, when having a steak will be a luxury, because there simply won’t be enough (sustainable) food for everyone. You offer no solutions.
Z.
Or, for example, buy a blender for your workplace. I think I saw brand new starting 400-600CZK. Throw some fresh stuff from the local shop, and you have a much healthier approach to convenient than processed dust. Still I insist, being rushed when you eat indicates there are other problems in one's life. Work should be a healthy low-stress place, not a workplace that doesn't respect the individual taking time for oneself. Sure, it happens that days suck, but how many are tolerable? As I already mentioned, when it starts with just one, start monitoring. That isn't normal. In that case, don't change your eating habits, rather change your job.
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Wiro wire@cyberpunk.cz wrote:
Solution for what ?
I can't do this.. I have no time.. I must .... just fucking excuses.
You can choose, being healthy or being lazy. All this powder foods and nutridrings are for people who can't eat or have some serious problems. It helps you survive but not healthy for every day use.
If you are sleepy after lunch, don't eat garbage.
W.
On 16.12.2014 19:08, Jan Schermer wrote:
I bought and consumed Nutridrinks for quite some time - simply because I was too busy to eat, or too lazy to go out (of office) or (usually) both. An hour saved everyday is just huge.
Many people don't eat breakfast because of time constraints. Many people don't eat anything between lunch and dinner.u Eating and then working is sometimes worse than not eating at all.
I love good food (hard to find any, though), but there's no reason to have good food everyday, or twice a day - I go out on weekends and eat steaks and stuff at restaurants if occassion arises, and I enjoy it. That doesn't mean I can't just "replenish nutrients" during the day, and if it takes no time and doesn't make me sleepy - great.
Let the hippies gather fresh herbs every day, some of us are too busy and have precious little time.
And there will come a time, when having a steak will be a luxury, because there simply won't be enough (sustainable) food for everyone. You offer no solutions.
Z.
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On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 08:12:21PM +0100, Mario Lombardo wrote:
Still I insist, being rushed when you eat indicates there are other problems in one's life. Work should be a healthy low-stress place, not a workplace that doesn't respect the individual taking time for oneself.
I think the mistake you are making is that everyone wants to live the same kind of life. Where to live happily, you want to be reasonably relaxed, not stressed, spread your work well and evenly, take care of your health and enjoy your meals.
Not everyone is like that. Actually the majority probably is, but not everyone. Some people need to be stressed a bit, overloaded by work and work in crazy bursts to feel happy! They will work like crazy for three weeks and then procrastinate for another week or four. And when they are in a burst mode, they certainly won't be interested in taking a 2 hour break for a nice meal and go collect herbs from the front of their house.
These nutrient thingies can be a great thing for them.
Maybe you think these people don't know what life is about and how to properly enjoy it. They will probably live a shorter life and be sick more often on average, and maybe even depressed more often, but they can't live in any other way - at least in some period of their life. And after all, how they live their lives isn't really any of your business. ;-)
Monsanto loves the idea of "superfood", and they love vegan too. Is anybody sure they want to support this shit?
Seriously, I have really no idea what does this have to do with Joylent. The Joylent makers are monopolists in a country where no other food is available?
the quotes toward the end of the page (http://www.joylent.eu/) are clearly from complete and utter retards...
Yes, their whole web presentation is WTF.
Actually, is there any serious research behind this Joylent stuff? I mean other than one night of googling recommended daily intakes.
Judging by their website I think they have no idea what are they doing :). That's why I think that using it more frequently than an occasional snack (like people eat candybars) is not good.
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