Hi guys.
Does anybody tried some of these protocols for home automation? I have read a lot of comparisons and don't know what way to go.
I'm not good in HW development therefore I will not build my own devices. My plans are build existing devices, control them through some USB controller connected to my Linux home server.
From my research the list of products seems to be better for Z-wave but
some comparisons claim that ZigBee is a better protocol.
Do you have some experience? What do you suggest?
Thanks.
On 03/17/2014 11:28 AM, Rado1 wrote:
Hi guys.
Does anybody tried some of these protocols for home automation? I have read a lot of comparisons and don't know what way to go.
I'm not good in HW development therefore I will not build my own devices. My plans are build existing devices, control them through some USB controller connected to my Linux home server.
We've bought few zigbee boards, they should have fairly large range. I don't know about the Z-wave protocol.
The zigbee boards' main problem was that they required some proprietary windows utility to program them, which acutally does it via UART, so it's fairly simple to sniff the commands. They may be already (unofficially) documented somewhere.
Second problem was that the ones we got a fairly high failure rate (I think 2-3 out of 5 simply refused to be programmed). Not sure if it was just bad luck. Maybe I could find them somewhere and bring it to brm for testing.
OM
Dne 17.3.2014 22:54, Ondrej Mikle napsal(a):
On 03/17/2014 11:28 AM, Rado1 wrote:
Hi guys.
Does anybody tried some of these protocols for home automation? I have read a lot of comparisons and don't know what way to go.
I'm not good in HW development therefore I will not build my own devices. My plans are build existing devices, control them through some USB controller connected to my Linux home server.
We've bought few zigbee boards, they should have fairly large range. I don't know about the Z-wave protocol.
The zigbee boards' main problem was that they required some proprietary windows utility to program them, which acutally does it via UART, so it's fairly simple to sniff the commands. They may be already (unofficially) documented somewhere.
Second problem was that the ones we got a fairly high failure rate (I think 2-3 out of 5 simply refused to be programmed). Not sure if it was just bad luck. Maybe I could find them somewhere and bring it to brm for testing.
Some vendors sell devices with a proprietary sw layer on top of zigbee. Such devices might not work with others.
Z-wave products *should* work flawlessly as any product marked as z-wave compatible has to be certified by z-wave alliance. There is a shield board for raspi, called RaZberry, this is what I'm planning to start with.
V.
Kedze sa chytili zatial len "nasi", budem pokracovat po nasom...
ZigBee (pripadne najrozsirenejsia implementacia XBee) ma zaujalo uz pred vyse rokom. Velky vyber modulov, dostupna dokumentacia pre koderov...
Kedze s jednocipakmi som sa naposledy hral pred 20 rokmi, tazko sa mi bude naskakovat naspat do tohoto vlaku. Hranie s *duinami ma zatial nelaka, tak isto hromadny nakup Rpi ku kazdej zasuvke.
Ked som hladal hotove vyrobky, pre ZigBee toho moc nie je a ked je, je to vacsinou pre amerikanske zasuvky.
Z-wave som tak akosi prehliadal, pretoze som bol zahackovany na ZigBee. Az som natrafil na tento produkt: http://www.fibaro.com/en/the-fibaro-system/wall-plug
Z mojho pohladu je to killer aplikacia, pretoze nemusim rozmontovavat ziadne zasuvky (aj ked to mi ziaden problem nerobi). Mozem zacat prakticky len s meranim spotreby 2-3 spotrebicov v domacnosti (a to je moj primarny ciel "home automation"). Ked som nasledne hladal veci okolo Z-wave, nasiel som aj ine vyrobky (spinace/stmievace do vypinacovych krabic, zasuviek, dverne snimace - dokonca kombinovane s inymi velicinami) a ich ponuka mi pride lepsia - hlavne pre nase europske nasadenie - ako u ZigBee. Dokonca aj USB riadiacich modulov kompatibilnych s Linuxom mi pride lepsia ponuka.
To, ze cipy vyraba jeden vendor - ano, pohladu "free world" - je zle a hnusne a kryptofasisticke, ale zasa mam vacsiu istotu, ze mi vyrobky viacerych vendorov budu spolupracovat (co u ZigBee vraj az taka samozrejmost nie je). Je mi jasne, ze si musim davat pozor, aby som kupil vyrobok s nasim RF pasmom.
Teraz mi vlastne ide len o to, ci som nahodou v tej zaplave hype prezentacii k Z-wave vyrobkom neprehliadol nieco, kvoli comu si neskor budem buchat hlavu o stenu (slabe sifrovanie, silne rusenie s TV a pod,...). Takze ma zaujimalo, ci uz niekto z vas nevychytal slepe cestu a usetrim mi cas, peniaze a nastvanost mojej manzelky. :-)))
Diky.
P.S. Som si spomenul, ze zatial ma zarazilo len jedno - v navodoch k Z-wave vyrobkom je vzdy parovanie riesenie ako: vytiahnut riadiaci USB kluc z PCdla/servra, zmacknut na nom tlacitko, zmacknut tlacitko na novom module a cakat, kym ledky neohlasia sparovanie. To neexistuje ziadne softverove discovery bez nutnosti downtime uz existujucej infrastruktury?
Ja neviem mozno ze to bude offtopic ak som nepochopil temu tak sa ospravedlnujem.
Ale ked som riesil ovladanie zasuviek na dialku najlepsim riesenim mi prislo kupit si 433 Mhz vysielac/prijimac z ebay alebo z ciny (investicia do 150 Kc). Napriklad: http://dx.com/p/433mhz-rf-transmitter-receiver-link-kit-green-221225
Nasledne som pouzival najlacnejsie spotrebice (zasuvky, vypinace, stmievace, cidla teploty) pracujuce na 433 Mhz (ceny tiez radovo v 100 korunach), maju ich vsade mozne.
Co sa tyka samotneho softveru nieje problem si to nabastlit pripadne vyuzit nieco hotove: http://www.pilight.org/
Z-wave a podobne mi prisli zbytocne drahe a obmedzujuce.
2014-03-18 9:07 GMT+01:00 Rado1 rado@rado1.cz:
Kedze sa chytili zatial len "nasi", budem pokracovat po nasom...
ZigBee (pripadne najrozsirenejsia implementacia XBee) ma zaujalo uz pred vyse rokom. Velky vyber modulov, dostupna dokumentacia pre koderov...
Kedze s jednocipakmi som sa naposledy hral pred 20 rokmi, tazko sa mi bude naskakovat naspat do tohoto vlaku. Hranie s *duinami ma zatial nelaka, tak isto hromadny nakup Rpi ku kazdej zasuvke.
Ked som hladal hotove vyrobky, pre ZigBee toho moc nie je a ked je, je to vacsinou pre amerikanske zasuvky.
Z-wave som tak akosi prehliadal, pretoze som bol zahackovany na ZigBee. Az som natrafil na tento produkt: http://www.fibaro.com/en/the-fibaro-system/wall-plug
Z mojho pohladu je to killer aplikacia, pretoze nemusim rozmontovavat ziadne zasuvky (aj ked to mi ziaden problem nerobi). Mozem zacat prakticky len s meranim spotreby 2-3 spotrebicov v domacnosti (a to je moj primarny ciel "home automation"). Ked som nasledne hladal veci okolo Z-wave, nasiel som aj ine vyrobky (spinace/stmievace do vypinacovych krabic, zasuviek, dverne snimace - dokonca kombinovane s inymi velicinami) a ich ponuka mi pride lepsia - hlavne pre nase europske nasadenie - ako u ZigBee. Dokonca aj USB riadiacich modulov kompatibilnych s Linuxom mi pride lepsia ponuka.
To, ze cipy vyraba jeden vendor - ano, pohladu "free world" - je zle a hnusne a kryptofasisticke, ale zasa mam vacsiu istotu, ze mi vyrobky viacerych vendorov budu spolupracovat (co u ZigBee vraj az taka samozrejmost nie je). Je mi jasne, ze si musim davat pozor, aby som kupil vyrobok s nasim RF pasmom.
Teraz mi vlastne ide len o to, ci som nahodou v tej zaplave hype prezentacii k Z-wave vyrobkom neprehliadol nieco, kvoli comu si neskor budem buchat hlavu o stenu (slabe sifrovanie, silne rusenie s TV a pod,...). Takze ma zaujimalo, ci uz niekto z vas nevychytal slepe cestu a usetrim mi cas, peniaze a nastvanost mojej manzelky. :-)))
Diky.
P.S. Som si spomenul, ze zatial ma zarazilo len jedno - v navodoch k Z-wave vyrobkom je vzdy parovanie riesenie ako: vytiahnut riadiaci USB kluc z PCdla/servra, zmacknut na nom tlacitko, zmacknut tlacitko na novom module a cakat, kym ledky neohlasia sparovanie. To neexistuje ziadne softverove discovery bez nutnosti downtime uz existujucej infrastruktury?
-- Rado1 rado (at) rado1.cz
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:39:44PM +0100, Vitezslav.Zak wrote: #> Dne 17.3.2014 22:54, Ondrej Mikle napsal(a): #> >On 03/17/2014 11:28 AM, Rado1 wrote: #> >>Hi guys. #> >> #> >>Does anybody tried some of these protocols for home automation? #> >>I have read a lot of comparisons and don't know what way to go. #> >> #> >>I'm not good in HW development therefore I will not build my own devices. #> >>My plans are build existing devices, control them through some USB controller #> >>connected to my Linux home server. #> >We've bought few zigbee boards, they should have fairly large range. I don't #> >know about the Z-wave protocol. #> > #> >The zigbee boards' main problem was that they required some proprietary windows #> >utility to program them, which acutally does it via UART, so it's fairly simple #> >to sniff the commands. They may be already (unofficially) documented somewhere. #> > #> >Second problem was that the ones we got a fairly high failure rate (I think 2-3 #> >out of 5 simply refused to be programmed). Not sure if it was just bad luck. #> >Maybe I could find them somewhere and bring it to brm for testing. #> #> Some vendors sell devices with a proprietary sw layer on top of #> zigbee. Such devices might not work with others. #> #> Z-wave products *should* work flawlessly as any product marked as #> z-wave compatible has to be certified by z-wave alliance. There is #> a shield board for raspi, called RaZberry, this is what I'm #> planning to start with. #> #> V. #> #> _______________________________________________ #> Brmlab mailing list #> Brmlab@brmlab.cz #> http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab _______________________________________________ Brmlab mailing list Brmlab@brmlab.cz http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab
Pokial sa rozhodnete pouzit pilight, tak venujte pozornost stranke s odporucaniami: http://wiki.pilight.org/doku.php/advice
Ale nic nieje nemozne :)
2014-03-18 10:05 GMT+01:00 Robert Vojcik robert@vojcik.net:
Ja neviem mozno ze to bude offtopic ak som nepochopil temu tak sa ospravedlnujem.
Ale ked som riesil ovladanie zasuviek na dialku najlepsim riesenim mi prislo kupit si 433 Mhz vysielac/prijimac z ebay alebo z ciny (investicia do 150 Kc). Napriklad: http://dx.com/p/433mhz-rf-transmitter-receiver-link-kit-green-221225
Nasledne som pouzival najlacnejsie spotrebice (zasuvky, vypinace, stmievace, cidla teploty) pracujuce na 433 Mhz (ceny tiez radovo v 100 korunach), maju ich vsade mozne.
Co sa tyka samotneho softveru nieje problem si to nabastlit pripadne vyuzit nieco hotove: http://www.pilight.org/
Z-wave a podobne mi prisli zbytocne drahe a obmedzujuce.
2014-03-18 9:07 GMT+01:00 Rado1 rado@rado1.cz:
Kedze sa chytili zatial len "nasi", budem pokracovat po nasom...
ZigBee (pripadne najrozsirenejsia implementacia XBee) ma zaujalo uz pred vyse rokom. Velky vyber modulov, dostupna dokumentacia pre koderov...
Kedze s jednocipakmi som sa naposledy hral pred 20 rokmi, tazko sa mi bude naskakovat naspat do tohoto vlaku. Hranie s *duinami ma zatial nelaka, tak isto hromadny nakup Rpi ku kazdej zasuvke.
Ked som hladal hotove vyrobky, pre ZigBee toho moc nie je a ked je, je to vacsinou pre amerikanske zasuvky.
Z-wave som tak akosi prehliadal, pretoze som bol zahackovany na ZigBee. Az som natrafil na tento produkt: http://www.fibaro.com/en/the-fibaro-system/wall-plug
Z mojho pohladu je to killer aplikacia, pretoze nemusim rozmontovavat ziadne zasuvky (aj ked to mi ziaden problem nerobi). Mozem zacat prakticky len s meranim spotreby 2-3 spotrebicov v domacnosti (a to je moj primarny ciel "home automation"). Ked som nasledne hladal veci okolo Z-wave, nasiel som aj ine vyrobky (spinace/stmievace do vypinacovych krabic, zasuviek, dverne snimace - dokonca kombinovane s inymi velicinami) a ich ponuka mi pride lepsia - hlavne pre nase europske nasadenie - ako u ZigBee. Dokonca aj USB riadiacich modulov kompatibilnych s Linuxom mi pride lepsia ponuka.
To, ze cipy vyraba jeden vendor - ano, pohladu "free world" - je zle a hnusne a kryptofasisticke, ale zasa mam vacsiu istotu, ze mi vyrobky viacerych vendorov budu spolupracovat (co u ZigBee vraj az taka samozrejmost nie je). Je mi jasne, ze si musim davat pozor, aby som kupil vyrobok s nasim RF pasmom.
Teraz mi vlastne ide len o to, ci som nahodou v tej zaplave hype prezentacii k Z-wave vyrobkom neprehliadol nieco, kvoli comu si neskor budem buchat hlavu o stenu (slabe sifrovanie, silne rusenie s TV a pod,...). Takze ma zaujimalo, ci uz niekto z vas nevychytal slepe cestu a usetrim mi cas, peniaze a nastvanost mojej manzelky. :-)))
Diky.
P.S. Som si spomenul, ze zatial ma zarazilo len jedno - v navodoch k Z-wave vyrobkom je vzdy parovanie riesenie ako: vytiahnut riadiaci USB kluc z PCdla/servra, zmacknut na nom tlacitko, zmacknut tlacitko na novom module a cakat, kym ledky neohlasia sparovanie. To neexistuje ziadne softverove discovery bez nutnosti downtime uz existujucej infrastruktury?
-- Rado1 rado (at) rado1.cz
On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:39:44PM +0100, Vitezslav.Zak wrote: #> Dne 17.3.2014 22:54, Ondrej Mikle napsal(a): #> >On 03/17/2014 11:28 AM, Rado1 wrote: #> >>Hi guys. #> >> #> >>Does anybody tried some of these protocols for home automation? #> >>I have read a lot of comparisons and don't know what way to go. #> >> #> >>I'm not good in HW development therefore I will not build my own devices. #> >>My plans are build existing devices, control them through some USB controller #> >>connected to my Linux home server. #> >We've bought few zigbee boards, they should have fairly large range. I don't #> >know about the Z-wave protocol. #> > #> >The zigbee boards' main problem was that they required some proprietary windows #> >utility to program them, which acutally does it via UART, so it's fairly simple #> >to sniff the commands. They may be already (unofficially) documented somewhere. #> > #> >Second problem was that the ones we got a fairly high failure rate (I think 2-3 #> >out of 5 simply refused to be programmed). Not sure if it was just bad luck. #> >Maybe I could find them somewhere and bring it to brm for testing. #> #> Some vendors sell devices with a proprietary sw layer on top of #> zigbee. Such devices might not work with others. #> #> Z-wave products *should* work flawlessly as any product marked as #> z-wave compatible has to be certified by z-wave alliance. There is #> a shield board for raspi, called RaZberry, this is what I'm #> planning to start with. #> #> V. #> #> _______________________________________________ #> Brmlab mailing list #> Brmlab@brmlab.cz #> http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab _______________________________________________ Brmlab mailing list Brmlab@brmlab.cz http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab
-- *Róbert Vojčík* email: robert@vojcik.net XMPP: robert@vojcik.net
U klasickych RF 433MHz ovladacich sad nikdy neviem, ake kody sa tam prenasaju (nehovorim o chybajucom sifrovani a autentifikacii, nerad by som, aby mi sesedia ovladali moje svetla). Takze pre kazdu dalsiu sadu, co si kupim, budem pravdepodobne musiet bastlit nove vysielace k domacemu servru. Tie 43MHz ovladace si jednocestne. Nemam ziadnu informaciu o aktualnom stave vypinaca.
Navyse som nikde nenasiel - opravte ma, ak sa mylim - 433MHz ovladace zasuviek schopne merat spotrebu. A to nehovorim o dalsich moduloch ako teplota, dverne/okenne snimace, voda na podlahe, spotreba vody, poziarny senzor. Nechcem skoncit s tym, ze budem na DPIO RPi bastlit mrte nekompatibilnych vysielacov. Ja chcem zasunut USB vysielac do domaceho servra a riadit nim vsetky zariadenia (nie len vypinanie zasuviek a svetiel).
A za to si kludne priplatim.
samozrejme sa tato diskusia dostava do dvoch rovin
jedna je "hotovy produkt" co produkty ktore maju z-wave jednoznacne su a je zabezpecena kopatibilita
druha je xbee a ostatne rf komunikacne zariadenia (x)bee je standard postaveny na 802.15.4 samozrejme to ale nic nehovori o kompatibilite modulov medzi vyrobcami casto sa to pouziva ako buzzword
433MHz je kapitola sa ma o sebe skor vhodna pre hackerov a bastlicov viz http://jeelabs.org/ ktory ponuka aj sifrovanie a goupy a co ja viem co vsetko
2014-03-18 10:31 GMT+01:00 Rado1 rado@rado1.cz:
U klasickych RF 433MHz ovladacich sad nikdy neviem, ake kody sa tam prenasaju (nehovorim o chybajucom sifrovani a autentifikacii, nerad by som, aby mi sesedia ovladali moje svetla). Takze pre kazdu dalsiu sadu, co si kupim, budem pravdepodobne musiet bastlit nove vysielace k domacemu servru. Tie 43MHz ovladace si jednocestne. Nemam ziadnu informaciu o aktualnom stave vypinaca.
Navyse som nikde nenasiel - opravte ma, ak sa mylim - 433MHz ovladace zasuviek schopne merat spotrebu. A to nehovorim o dalsich moduloch ako teplota, dverne/okenne snimace, voda na podlahe, spotreba vody, poziarny senzor. Nechcem skoncit s tym, ze budem na DPIO RPi bastlit mrte nekompatibilnych vysielacov. Ja chcem zasunut USB vysielac do domaceho servra a riadit nim vsetky zariadenia (nie len vypinanie zasuviek a svetiel).
A za to si kludne priplatim.
Rado1 rado (at) rado1.cz
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:14:08AM +0100, Robert Vojcik wrote: #> Pokial sa rozhodnete pouzit pilight, tak venujte pozornost stranke s #> odporucaniami: http://wiki.pilight.org/doku.php/advice #> #> Ale nic nieje nemozne :) #> #> 2014-03-18 10:05 GMT+01:00 Robert Vojcik robert@vojcik.net: #> #> Ja neviem mozno ze to bude offtopic ak som nepochopil temu tak sa #> ospravedlnujem. #> #> Ale ked som riesil ovladanie zasuviek na dialku najlepsim riesenim mi #> prislo kupit si 433 Mhz vysielac/prijimac z ebay alebo z ciny #> (investicia do 150 Kc). #> Napriklad: #> http://dx.com/p/433mhz-rf-transmitter-receiver-link-kit-green-221225 #> Nasledne som pouzival najlacnejsie spotrebice (zasuvky, vypinace, #> stmievace, cidla teploty) pracujuce na 433 Mhz (ceny tiez radovo v 100 #> korunach), maju ich vsade mozne. #> #> Co sa tyka samotneho softveru nieje problem si to nabastlit pripadne #> vyuzit nieco hotove: http://www.pilight.org/ #> #> Z-wave a podobne mi prisli zbytocne drahe a obmedzujuce. #> #> 2014-03-18 9:07 GMT+01:00 Rado1 rado@rado1.cz: #> #> Kedze sa chytili zatial len "nasi", budem pokracovat po nasom... #> #> ZigBee (pripadne najrozsirenejsia implementacia XBee) ma zaujalo uz #> pred #> vyse rokom. Velky vyber modulov, dostupna dokumentacia pre koderov... #> #> Kedze s jednocipakmi som sa naposledy hral pred 20 rokmi, tazko sa mi #> bude #> naskakovat naspat do tohoto vlaku. Hranie s *duinami ma zatial nelaka, #> tak #> isto hromadny nakup Rpi ku kazdej zasuvke. #> #> Ked som hladal hotove vyrobky, pre ZigBee toho moc nie je a ked je, je #> to #> vacsinou pre amerikanske zasuvky. #> #> Z-wave som tak akosi prehliadal, pretoze som bol zahackovany na #> ZigBee. #> Az som natrafil na tento produkt: #> http://www.fibaro.com/en/the-fibaro-system/wall-plug #> #> Z mojho pohladu je to killer aplikacia, pretoze nemusim rozmontovavat #> ziadne zasuvky (aj ked to mi ziaden problem nerobi). Mozem zacat #> prakticky #> len s meranim spotreby 2-3 spotrebicov v domacnosti (a to je moj #> primarny #> ciel "home automation"). Ked som nasledne hladal veci okolo Z-wave, #> nasiel #> som aj ine vyrobky (spinace/stmievace do vypinacovych krabic, #> zasuviek, #> dverne snimace - dokonca kombinovane s inymi velicinami) a ich ponuka #> mi #> pride lepsia - hlavne pre nase europske nasadenie - ako u ZigBee. #> Dokonca aj USB riadiacich modulov kompatibilnych s Linuxom mi pride #> lepsia #> ponuka. #> #> To, ze cipy vyraba jeden vendor - ano, pohladu "free world" - je zle #> a hnusne a kryptofasisticke, ale zasa mam vacsiu istotu, ze mi vyrobky #> viacerych vendorov budu spolupracovat (co u ZigBee vraj az taka #> samozrejmost nie je). Je mi jasne, ze si musim davat pozor, aby som #> kupil #> vyrobok s nasim RF pasmom. #> #> Teraz mi vlastne ide len o to, ci som nahodou v tej zaplave hype #> prezentacii k Z-wave vyrobkom neprehliadol nieco, kvoli comu si neskor #> budem buchat hlavu o stenu (slabe sifrovanie, silne rusenie s TV a #> pod,...). Takze ma zaujimalo, ci uz niekto z vas nevychytal slepe #> cestu #> a usetrim mi cas, peniaze a nastvanost mojej manzelky. :-))) #> #> Diky. #> #> P.S. Som si spomenul, ze zatial ma zarazilo len jedno - v navodoch k #> Z-wave #> vyrobkom je vzdy parovanie riesenie ako: vytiahnut riadiaci USB kluc z #> PCdla/servra, zmacknut na nom tlacitko, zmacknut tlacitko na novom #> module a #> cakat, kym ledky neohlasia sparovanie. To neexistuje ziadne softverove #> discovery bez nutnosti downtime uz existujucej infrastruktury? #> -- #> Rado1 #> rado (at) rado1.cz #> #> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 11:39:44PM +0100, Vitezslav.Zak wrote: #> #> Dne 17.3.2014 22:54, Ondrej Mikle napsal(a): #> #> >On 03/17/2014 11:28 AM, Rado1 wrote: #> #> >>Hi guys. #> #> >> #> #> >>Does anybody tried some of these protocols for home automation? #> #> >>I have read a lot of comparisons and don't know what way to go. #> #> >> #> #> >>I'm not good in HW development therefore I will not build my own #> devices. #> #> >>My plans are build existing devices, control them through some #> USB controller #> #> >>connected to my Linux home server. #> #> >We've bought few zigbee boards, they should have fairly large #> range. I don't #> #> >know about the Z-wave protocol. #> #> > #> #> >The zigbee boards' main problem was that they required some #> proprietary windows #> #> >utility to program them, which acutally does it via UART, so it's #> fairly simple #> #> >to sniff the commands. They may be already (unofficially) #> documented somewhere. #> #> > #> #> >Second problem was that the ones we got a fairly high failure rate #> (I think 2-3 #> #> >out of 5 simply refused to be programmed). Not sure if it was just #> bad luck. #> #> >Maybe I could find them somewhere and bring it to brm for testing. #> #> #> #> Some vendors sell devices with a proprietary sw layer on top of #> #> zigbee. Such devices might not work with others. #> #> #> #> Z-wave products *should* work flawlessly as any product marked as #> #> z-wave compatible has to be certified by z-wave alliance. �There is #> #> a shield board for raspi, called RaZberry, this is what I'm #> #> planning to start with. #> #> #> #> V. #> #> #> #> _______________________________________________ #> #> Brmlab mailing list #> #> Brmlab@brmlab.cz #> #> http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab #> _______________________________________________ #> Brmlab mailing list #> Brmlab@brmlab.cz #> http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab #> #> -- #> R�bert Voj� #> �mail: robert@vojcik.net #> XMPP: robert@vojcik.net #> #> -- #> R�bert Voj� #> �mail: robert@vojcik.net #> XMPP: robert@vojcik.net #> #> References #> #> Visible links #> . http://wiki.pilight.org/doku.php/advice #> . mailto:robert@vojcik.net #> . http://dx.com/p/433mhz-rf-transmitter-receiver-link-kit-green-221225 #> . http://www.pilight.org/ #> . mailto:rado@rado1.cz #> . http://www.fibaro.com/en/the-fibaro-system/wall-plug #> . http://rado1.cz/ #> . mailto:Brmlab@brmlab.cz #> . http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab #> . mailto:Brmlab@brmlab.cz #> . http://brmlab.cz/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/brmlab #> . mailto:robert@vojcik.net #> . mailto:robert@vojcik.net #> . mailto:robert@vojcik.net #> . mailto:robert@vojcik.net
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Samozrejme, ze ak sa clovek rozhodne si veci robit sam, musi si radu veci vyriesit sam (ale casto vyrazne lepsie nez to zvladne vyrobca). Len som ukazal moj nazor na vec.
Rovnake existuju uz cele riesenia automatizacie domacnosti so vsetkym co k tomu je potreba. Vsetko je otazka toho co od toho clovek chce a kolko je ochotny za to zaplatit.
On 18.3.2014 10:31, Rado1 wrote:
U klasickych RF 433MHz ovladacich sad nikdy neviem, ake kody sa tam prenasaju (nehovorim o chybajucom sifrovani a autentifikacii, nerad by som, aby mi sesedia ovladali moje svetla). Takze pre kazdu dalsiu sadu, co si kupim, budem pravdepodobne musiet bastlit nove vysielace k domacemu servru. Tie 43MHz ovladace si jednocestne. Nemam ziadnu informaciu o aktualnom stave vypinaca.
Navyse som nikde nenasiel - opravte ma, ak sa mylim - 433MHz ovladace zasuviek schopne merat spotrebu. A to nehovorim o dalsich moduloch ako teplota, dverne/okenne snimace, voda na podlahe, spotreba vody, poziarny senzor. Nechcem skoncit s tym, ze budem na DPIO RPi bastlit mrte nekompatibilnych vysielacov. Ja chcem zasunut USB vysielac do domaceho servra a riadit nim vsetky zariadenia (nie len vypinanie zasuviek a svetiel).
A za to si kludne priplatim.
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